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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2009, 11:24:44 PM » |
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well for one thing the guy made his point on the first one so why would he have to do it again, Also the 2nd 1 is all about money and how corrupt it is but you go on the website and it says can i have some money for the zeitgeist movement which makes him look stupid and unreliable on his word which weakens to whole point of it its a classic government trick. the rest i think you should find out..
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2009, 02:55:53 AM » |
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well for one thing the guy made his point on the first one so why would he have to do it again, Also the 2nd 1 is all about money and how corrupt it is but you go on the website and it says can i have some money for the zeitgeist movement which makes him look stupid and unreliable on his word which weakens to whole point of it its a classic government trick. the rest i think you should find out..
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2009, 06:26:24 AM » |
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well for one thing the guy made his point on the first one so why would he have to do it again, Also the 2nd 1 is all about money and how corrupt it is but you go on the website and it says can i have some money for the zeitgeist movement which makes him look stupid and unreliable on his word which weakens to whole point of it its a classic government trick. the rest i think you should find out..
Nah, I don't buy any of that at all I'm afraid. He had this same discussion with Alex Jones at one point. Peter Joseph stated that he didn't agree with the system at all but would accept the fact that we are currently living in it and funds have to be acquired somehow. The donations to the Zeitgeist movement go to expanding the organisation. And still you haven't supplied me with any evidence that 2 and 3 were funded/made by the government. Come people...critical thinking... |
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Moonchild
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2009, 11:10:43 AM » |
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this is where the bribed bit comes into it, he probs was bribed to say that remember everything has to be run through the goverment first before its shown, their not gonna let a film like that just to be seen like that without anything to make it weak their whole plan will fall so they must put something in their to throw people off like you right now thats your evidence, just look at it from that perspective and you might get something.
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WA2
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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2009, 11:19:54 AM » |
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What must be remembered is that they're not trying to fool the average Joe with their plane. They're trying to fool those who might actually be a threat. So what might be logical for a very smart and inquisitive person, may be fooled by their plan, like if they do something obvious to a Joe, seen as a trick by the smarter ones, but could actually be to throw the smarter ones off... the thing now is, is that its a never ending cycle. So what they're plan is becomes un-solvable because it all depends on what they choose.
So...we may never truly know until we actually take 'em down. 50:50 chance to what they actually are and doing. I might be inclined to think that the stuff in the Obama Decpetion video is a ploy to throw us off. But that may be what they WANT me to think. SO then it could be true. But again, that could be what they WANT me to think. You see my point?
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Moonchild
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« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2009, 12:26:59 PM » |
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definitely i understand, its hard to know where the line is.
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2009, 09:43:51 PM » |
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personally i agree with amer, if the elite are really this powerful they probably create loads of conspiracy theories, or alter ones currently in circulation through information control, to double- or triple- or quadruple bluff the people who pose a threat.
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2009, 09:52:46 PM » |
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Thats my point. How far does the bluff go? How many levels? WHAT IS THE TRUTH?!?!?
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2009, 09:56:15 PM » |
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Be wise to these matters. Be agnostic to these matters.
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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2009, 09:53:52 PM » |
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I think you people are heading deep into madness here. I will believe what I believe because there is something called EVIDENCE! Not some unbacked theory or perspective. Sometimes I think you all want to believe there's more just for your own entertainment.
And even my so called evidence is beginning to be tested at this point in time. Who knows...
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jrkulmer
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« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2009, 09:56:02 PM » |
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Completely unrelated, but salvagemydream, loving the signature, completely agree  |
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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2009, 04:37:38 PM » |
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Sometimes logic is just as good as evidence.
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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2009, 11:16:33 PM » |
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Our "logic" within our minds tells us that the world is flat. Only with evidence can we convince our intuition that it is wrong. Like evolution, it was dismissed as utter bullshit, then along pops darwin with reams upon reams of evidence, and the world gives into its truth. See what I mean?
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2009, 06:33:08 PM » |
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I completely disagree. In fact, I must hasten to retract my statement for fear of jrkulmer getting the wrong end of the stick (again). For you James, I will say that logic works hand in hand with evidence. However, with your example of the world being flat, that is making a logical deduction on what we perceive, whereas it would be more logical to make a decision on what is physically possible.
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2009, 07:33:02 PM » |
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aye i agree with you, but sometimes its impossible to percieve the truth without evidence lol. But they DEFINITELY work hand in hand, I submit to that |
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